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Insert Editing

Post by bvolcjak »

I have a 10 min. presentation with a talking head and inserted video clips etc. How can I insert a video clip with deminished audio. I've inserted "video only" clips with no problems but am uncertain about how to achieve my objective. I'm thinking that I'd need to import the sound via a CD and mix it in on a seperate track. I'd appreciate any comments.
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Re: Insert Editing

Post by LouBruno »

Are you trying to utilze the exisiting sound from the INSERT and incorporate with your audio already in the SB? Are you trying to lower the sound of the insert clip?

If so, simply use SCENE SAMPLE. It will appear in your AUDIO bin. Place that insert clips audio under your actual video insert clip in the Audio Mix window and lower the audio. This will be done on a separate audio track of course.
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Re: Insert Editing

Post by jimmeeker »

Hello Bill,

"SCENE----->SAMPLE" To the rescue.

Too further help with your insert audio situation let me go a little more into how to actually do it!

When you select a scene in your scene bin to make a "Scene---->Sample" from, it will appear that nothing happens! But in reality it places the audio track only from your selected scene in the audio list on the audio edit window. You can't see this from your regular edit window....but it happens. When you go to the audio mix window and click on "Add" it'll show up in the audio list that appears and you can then place it in one of the open tracks under your inserted scene.

At this point you have a couple of choices as to what to do with it. This newly applied audio track can be left alone and it'll play at it's normal volume along with any or all of the other tracks that have sound on them. Or it can be used as a control switch to change the volume of each of the tracks during the time that it uses in your mix window. If it's 27 seconds long, it may ( at your choice) affect that same 27 seconds on each of the audio tracks, like a separate volume control for each of them.

So you may choose to make the audio of the base scene under the inserted video..... louder, by turning it up a little using the main volume control...the large one. You may turn the base scene down as well but by doing either of these you will effect the entire length of the scene and not just the portion with the insert. You want to lower it during the time of the insert so you can hear the inserted audio. You may do this by using a SCENE--->SAMPLE of the insert. Placing the Audio only of the inserted scene under the insert, you can then raise or lower the sample using the regular volume control...the larger one.

Or you can use the Scene-->Sample as a controlling switch to change the volume on all of the other tracks one at a time by selecting the track to effect ( using the correction window and sliding the vertical bar on the left, up and down to select which track you want to be affected by your correction choice during the 27 second time period)

Now you have selected which track to correct.....and by raising or lowering the correction volume control (the smaller volume control and not the large one) you will affect the volume of the selected track when you render it out. If you want to affect other tracks during that same 27 second time period, you may do so by selecting each track with the left hand vertical slider and then making the correction with the small volume control for each one, and then rendering, (create).

So we have learned that a "Scene--->Sample" can be used to add audio under an insert and also may be used as a control switch to affect any of the tracks during the time that is occupied by the sample. You may also do these same control things using a "Silent Sample". You don't need any audio in a sample to have it act as the controlling switch that allows you to change the volume of any of your tracks during its time on it's track.

Naturally, you'll want to lower the audio of the base scene under the inserted scene to an appropriate level so that it is still pleasantly there to give an authentic feel of being there, but soft enough so that your audience can fully hear and understand the sound from the inserted image. If you are using a silent sample to be the control switch....you can fade it's effect in and out so that the transition into and out of the inserted area is smooth and pleasant to listen too.

Bill, after reading Chris Stone's answer below this one, I needed to add that this set of instructions is for the regular audio system and does not take into consideration the additional steps needed if you are using the rubber banding or "Envelope" method that Chris is describing below.

Hope this basic information isn't too confusing....if so just ask and we'll be here.
Last edited by jimmeeker on Fri May 23, 2008 1:30 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Insert Editing

Post by ChrisStone »

Bill
If you want the nat sound from your insert clips mixed in with the audio of your talking head, here's a couple of ways to do that.
1. From your scene bin, select the scene that was used as your insert edit.
2. Click the Special button and then scroll down and find the Scene to Sample button
3. Click on the Scene to Sample button and it will strip the audio from your video and place the audio sample in the "audio record and edit " window.
4. Go back to the "audio mix" window. Select one of the five tracks below the video track and click on the add button. This will display all the audio samples from the audio record and edit window.
5. Select the sample from your inserted video and press ok.
6. You should now see an audio track that is as long as your 10 minute video.
7. Using the range button, trim the begining and end of the audio sample to match up with your first insert. You may want to make it one second longer front and back, then using the fade button, fade it in and out by one second.
8. Adjust the volume of that sample to taste using the volume control.

So you've got your first insert clip with nat sound, now you've got a couple of options

A. Select a different audio track to lay down the 10 minute sample onto, and repeat the above process, trimming the sample to your next insert.
There are five tracks of audio besided the video track, so obviously you can only do this five times before you have to make a scene of the whole thing and then start over using the new 10 minute scene which will now have 5 empty audio tracks.

B. 1) Using the range function, look at the out or end point of your first audio sample and write that time down.
2) go into the audio record and editing window and trim the beginning of your 10 minute sample to the time you wrote down minus one frame.
3) Now add that sample behind the first one, on the same track, and then trim it to your next insert. Repeat the process for all your inserts.

And finally there's yet another way to do this. This works well if you've got alot of inserts.

1. Back in your main edit screen use the range button to make note of the beginning and end points of all your inserts and write these times down.
2. In the audio mix window add your 10 minute sample to an empty track as described before.
3. Click on the envelope window.
4.You will have two adjustable audio points at the beginning and end of the sample. Bring both of these down to "mute" using the level button.
5. Click on the add button. This will place a new adjustable point in the center of the sample and will default to 0 db.
6. Using the position buttion move this point to one or two seconds before the in time of your first insert. (the fade times are entirely up to your liking)
7. Using the Level button bring this point down to mute.
8. Click the add button again and move the new point to the in point of your first insert.
9. Using the level button adjust the volume to taste.
10. Now you'll do this step again for the out time of your insert, and then add yet one more point one or two seconds past the out point and bring it down to mute.
So for each insert you will have four audio points displayed in the envelope window. The first and last anchor the audio to "mute" and the second and third points coincide with the in and out points of your insert.
Repeat the process for each insert.
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