Entry level DSLR

A place to talk equipment, other than Casablanca

Entry level DSLR

Postby BobC » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:25 pm

Pondering adding a DSLR to my arsenal. I have absolutely zero experience with these, but wondering if any of you have a suggestion as to an entry level camera to try for a while and then possibly look to upgrade at a later date. Don't really want to spend $2000 only to find I don't care to pursue this avenue. Most of my shooting is long form events (recitals, stage productions, etc.) so I know this won't be my primary camera, but for commercials or wedding receptions I think it would be nice to add to our capabilities.
Bob Claxton
Heritage Video

S-6000, LibertyPlus
BobC
 
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:23 pm
Location: Statesboro, Georgia
Casablanca Unit: S-6000, Liberty Plus

Re: Entry level DSLR

Postby Franklinbencosme » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:24 pm

Hey !! Bobc here is my cheap and easy set up for DSLR begging world

Canon 60d new US 899, use US 699 (get the new one)..http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/7 ... amera.html

1 canon 50mm 1.8 lens US 109,this is a cheap and great LOW LIGHT.http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1 ... f_1_8.html

1 Sigma 17-55mm 2.8 US 669 this WIDE and ZOOM lens..http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/6 ... EX_DC.html

1 tascam DR-05 audio record US 99 but right now special price US 65,yes is necessary to cover your audio..http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/7 ... gital.html

1 Manfroto monopod US 192 yes is impossible to do DSLR video hand held,even if you got a tripod this is more easy to use..http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/7 ... ction.html

Bobc you are almost ready to do DSLR video,when you learn(a takes a few weeks if you practice) how to shoot in this world
from DSLR you will never miss the VIDEO 60i mode,more help? ask SYL RENAUD (amazing guy... ;) ) for more suggestion !!

Good luck !!!... :D
Franklinbencosme
 
Posts: 429
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:13 am
Location: Dominican Republic
Casablanca Unit: S-6000 + Mac mini with FCPX
DSLR cameras,5DMKII-60D-DRONE
No camcorder,no INTERLACE mode

Re: Entry level DSLR

Postby BobC » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:52 pm

Thanks Franklin, I appreciate your time and suggestions.
Bob Claxton
Heritage Video

S-6000, LibertyPlus
BobC
 
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:23 pm
Location: Statesboro, Georgia
Casablanca Unit: S-6000, Liberty Plus

Re: Entry level DSLR

Postby Volker » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:33 am

Hi!

You can get a Sony alpha33 (with basic lens) for less than 400$.
With the right add-on lens you can create beautiful pictures/videos for less than 500$.

Best regards,
Volker
Volker Hill - Germany
Volker
 
Posts: 311
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:48 am
Location: Germany
Casablanca Unit: equipment: Sony HDR-XR520, Sony RX10, GoPro Hero1, Actionpro X7, Canon Ixus 70, 2xEnterprise MAX with Bogart SE 5/6, Samsung 42" FullHD LCD, Samsung 22" DVI Monitor, Samsung 22" HDMI TV Monitor

Re: Entry level DSLR

Postby BobC » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:58 am

Thanks Volker, looks more in my price range for getting started.
Bob Claxton
Heritage Video

S-6000, LibertyPlus
BobC
 
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:23 pm
Location: Statesboro, Georgia
Casablanca Unit: S-6000, Liberty Plus

Re: Entry level DSLR

Postby nighvideo » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:08 am

Be careful of DSLR... this is the "new fad" amongst the videogs that are looking to forsake the old, boasting their humungas chip. For run and gun, its not the best. Your locked into 24p, and quick movements, pans, tilts will be choppy because of the slow frame rate. People will argue that pan and tilts are "passae'", because they dont use them in cinema. They dont use them because they cant, because of the slow frame rates. DSLR is however phenominal in low light, and has uncompared DOF. DOF, however can be acheived with a video cam if positioned at the right distance from your subject. Oh yea... no servo zoom either. So how do I get that film look? Bogart has an effect called 'movie mode' which changes the 60i to 30i digitally, and it looks pretty much like film, if fact, its impressive. I only use that effect where justified, that way the viewer gets a mix and it becomes more teasing to the eye. By the time you set up the DSLR with a rig that will hold it steady enough, and a lens that will give you what you really want.... well.... you might as well go with a high end video cam. I say.. video cam for video... still cam for stills... but thats just my opinion. ;)
nighvideo
 
Posts: 32
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:10 am
Casablanca Unit: Prestige / and Casablance s-4100

Re: Entry level DSLR

Postby SYLRENAUD » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:24 am

My 2 cents is that I have been working with HDSLR's now for almost 3 yrs & the purpose of the change for me was not because it was a "new fad" the "Film Look" has existed since the beginning of movie making.
+ many new more expensive cameras now have the big sensor with interchangeable lenses just like HDSLR's do... so I don't think this fad is going anywhere soon (just my opinion)
HDSLR's have given everyone the ability to get the film look at a _very_ affordable price. There is definitely a learning curve that comes with it but if thats the look you like and what the market now wants then go for it !
I have learned to pan,zoom in, tilt with a tripod just like a normal HD cam you name it its all doable with the right tools & if you practice it. Yes they have some limitations but you can work around them.
You are not locked in at 24p (very strobe look when panning) these cameras also shoot in 30p & 60p where panning is very acceptable.

Here it comes--- at the end of the day _what are you looking to achieve with your camera_ if you don't like backing up 25 feet to get DOF with your regular camera then HDSLR's can help you.
If you want no bells and whistle, no film look, just plain jane... then yes a regular HD cam is for you... either way you still have to make it compelling for your client.
BTW I agree that "Movie Mode" gives that film look in our editors with interlace video great software :)
Last edited by SYLRENAUD on Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:36 am, edited 3 times in total.
SYLRENAUD
 
Posts: 226
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:12 am
Location: Montreal,Quebec,Canada
Casablanca Unit: 2/S4100 1/S6000 Bogart SE 5, Arabesk 5
most all of the software on all 3 units.
We shoot everything with HDSLR's.
Four Canon 5d mark II and one 7d.

Re: Entry level DSLR

Postby TimKennelly » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:35 am

I agree there is a totally new learning curve with using a DSLR. That is exactly why I didn't move to them as I was shutting my video business down. I get a lot of the Cassie crowd is older, conservative videogs, but DSLRs are not the future of this industry, they are already the present. Look around the industry, virtually all the best work out there is now shot on DSLR acquisition devices and calling it a fad or that it can't or shouldn't be done is simply denying reality.
My mom always told me that happiness was the key to life.
At school they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up.
I said “happy" and they told me I didn’t understand the question.
I told them they didn’t understand life.


Tim Kennelly
TimKennelly
 
Posts: 1806
Joined: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:40 pm
Location: Clio, MI 48420
Casablanca Unit: No Casablanca unit currently.

Re: Entry level DSLR

Postby Franklinbencosme » Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:36 pm

DSLR video is a different way to improve your video quality, thanks to the many options that you have with lenses,after the learning curve
coming from video (60i),to DSLR(30p),my way to tell (edit) the history from any event has change,no pan (only in emergency) no zoom
no more worry about video lights(depends what lenses you are using) more stable shoots (you have to),and the more important THE WAY YOUR VIDEOS LOOKS,todays new generations clients are asking for more film looks,this is impossible with any VIDEO CAMCORDER that use the only lenses that comes
with the camera, and believe me, after you go to DSLR world, you will never go to back to VIDEO (60i or 4 x 3 :o ) looks !!! :?

Franklin

ps-A agree MOVIE MODE is a winner !!.. :D
Franklinbencosme
 
Posts: 429
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:13 am
Location: Dominican Republic
Casablanca Unit: S-6000 + Mac mini with FCPX
DSLR cameras,5DMKII-60D-DRONE
No camcorder,no INTERLACE mode

Re: Entry level DSLR

Postby LouBruno » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:12 pm

At first I thought it would a "fad" and would be replaced with another cinematic look. However, I think it is here to stay.

Almost ALL members and especially the young members of my video association utilize a HDSLR to some extent or in its entirety. Personally, I am waiting for video camera which features the larger chips but at a reasonable cost w/o having to change lenses and has a servo.
LOU BRUNO

Gocycle@optonline.net
LouBruno
 
Posts: 5202
Joined: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:49 pm
Location: Long Island New York
Casablanca Unit: KARAT, STUDIO ULTRA and the S6000 with Blu-ray with ALL SOFTWARE, Cassie Travel Laptop PRO- Bogart Windows, MSI APACHE PROGE72VR laptop with BOGART and all Current BOGART & Arabesk. GLIDECAM HD-2000, THE FLIP MINO personal HD web-style cameras-Gen 3, Two I-Pods 4G/HD recording, I-Pad 4,

SONY PXW-X70 AVCHD and XAVC 50Mb. SONY FDR-53 4K, SONY HXR-HMC2500
, SONY FDR AX-700 HDR 4K video camera, GoPro HD2&3, SONY HDR-CX150 small HD pocket camera, Two Samsung BD D5700 Blu-ray players.
TWO SONY HDV decks, JVC DT-V20L1 HDV monitor, All Music2Hues and Digital Hotcakes, Nikon D-80 still camera, NIKON D7100 HDSLR 18-300mm lens, 7 professional bicycles, two camels and a donkey :-) ........ Gocycle@optonline.net

Next

Return to Cameras & Gear

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron