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S4100 glitch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:51 pm
by AllenMcLaughlin
Started my first edit on the new unit yesterday, ingested 3 seperate mini-dv tapes, the intention being to auto-split them after capture. Tape 1 captured as one clip/thumbnail, so did tape 3, but tape 2 captured as 5 seperate clips/thumbnails) before I went anywhere near the split button. Not sure why that happened ??? I ran the auto-split over tapes 1&3... Tape 1 appears to have auto-split as I'd expect, but tape 3 appears to have split variousley into either new clips of the entire tape, or split as I'd expect at the record/pause camcorder inputs but also seems to have randomley created duplicate scenes of said splits further up the scene bin...
Re: S4100 glitch
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:12 am
by Charles
Welcome to Bogart Allen,my S4000 is gathering dust waiting for the fixes,last e-mail i had from Manager Technical Consulting at MS DE on the 20/4/09 was they expected a release soon,not holding my breath.
There might be a reason for your problem but i just gave up.
Re: S4100 glitch
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:00 pm
by TimKennelly
Allen,
Are you inputting with the Sony or the Canon (or something else)?
Re: S4100 glitch
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:55 pm
by AllenMcLaughlin
TimKennelly wrote:Allen,
Are you inputting with the Sony or the Canon (or something else)?
In this case Tim it was via the Sony but using footage shot (on someone else's) Canon XL-2 via firewire.
Re: S4100 glitch
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:39 pm
by TimKennelly
It almost sounds like the system is seeing more cut information points. I am wondering if the shooter did not do playback reviews during the run and gun causing "false" split points.
From my experience the Sony should give the more accurate firewire transfer regarding such things as Auto Split so I am pretty much out of answers here as Bogart is still pretty shaky and cutting edge ground, plus you are PAL which also differs in some issues with the NTSC version, usually to your benefit.
Perhaps Hans or Martyn, both of whom use the PAL version could chirp in here.
Re: S4100 glitch
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:36 am
by MichaelD
Hi Allen,
The 'new clips' appearing after capture could just be time code blips where the machine, Bogart or otherwise, would display the footage as separate captured clips - even thogh they were from a single pass of the main tape.
As for the erratic split of tape three can you check in System Setting, Additional Setting and make sure that it is set to Start Code and not Time.
Michael.
Re: S4100 glitch
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 2:12 pm
by AllenMcLaughlin
I've just made 167 clips into a single scene, exported that scene into a new project and then run auto split across it...it only found 55 cut points ...?
Re: S4100 glitch
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:58 am
by AllenMcLaughlin
OK here's another little problem that's come to light (unless I'm doing it wrong)...?
I tried to use the regular 'quick motion' and 'backwards motion' FX and nothing happens, no new scene created in the scene bin alongside the original. Is it a rendering issue perhaps and do I need to do something clever with background rendering on ? Apologies if this has been covered already, I've only just started with Bogart.
Re: S4100 glitch
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 10:16 am
by TimKennelly
Allen,
These work for me.
There are issues with such and Smart Rendering though.
Re: S4100 glitch
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:12 pm
by LouBruno
This is a COMMON Canon issue. This occurs, usually, when a tape from another camera is played in a Canon camera OR a tape RECORDED on the CANON camera is played in another manufactorers camera as a playback deck. It is not a BOGART SE issue as I have come across this malfunction on the SOLITAIRE. This is a camera issue-incompatability in my experience.
I have observed this NUMEROUS times with the GL-1 and GL-2 so it would not surprise me that the XL-2 is the same.
AllenMcLaughlin wrote:TimKennelly wrote:Allen,
Are you inputting with the Sony or the Canon (or something else)?
In this case Tim it was via the Sony but using footage shot (on someone else's) Canon XL-2 via firewire.