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Archiving the Storyboard

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:33 pm
by Rte80west
Simple question and I've heard bits & pieces of related answers, but am looking for the "entire picture" in one response.

How do I make use of the archiving feature on the S4000? My understanding is the entire storyboard is preserved so that if reloaded to the system it is restored exactly as normal. Is this correct and does it also restore the scenes in the scene bin? I back up to tape but was thinking this may be a second method of backing up. Is there required software/devices? Cost? I am assuming it will be compatible w/ future editing suites as well.

Re: Archiving the Storyboard

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:08 pm
by Volker
Hi,
you have to use the HD-Backup Bogart Software in order to backup a storyboard, the scene bin, the audio clips and the audio mix section.
See:http://www.macrosystem.de/e/expansions_ ... ogart.html

You can use almost any USB hard drive for this purpose. I use this programm each day. You can save many backups onto one hard disk - one each day. In case anything should "happen", you easily can restore one of those backup files.

All other "backup" functions more or less have only been designed for watching and presenting purpose. So they should have called them "export" instead of backup. But HD-Backup Bogart really does the job for me.

Re: Archiving the Storyboard

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:43 pm
by CasablancaExpert
To supplement what Volker has shared, you can review a streaming video that goes through the different back-up and archive functions available on your Casablanca. These are available to all Casablanca community members in my Public Webinar Archives on my website here:
http://www.casablancaexpert.com/categories/webinarpost

You can choose any one of the three streaming videos, divided by content:
1 of 3: All About Archives - includes Storyboard Archives, Bogart HD Backup and Customs Archives
2 of 3: Bogart HD-Backup
3 of 3: Archives: Backup & Restore

Regards,
Chet

Re: Archiving the Storyboard

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:17 am
by Rte80west
Thanks for the feedback Volker & Chet. Appreciate it.

On a related note, if a USB drive is used for backup, how much storgae space would bve required to backup a typical 2 hour project?

And also, I am assuming the backed up data will be accessible in the future, even if the hardware systems change, correct? I just want assurances that as long as the data is backed up to USB now it will be accessible in the future w/o issue, regardless of hardware changes.

Re: Archiving the Storyboard

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:50 am
by CasablancaExpert
... if a USB drive is used for backup, how much storgae space would be required to backup a typical 2 hour project?
I should know the answer to that like my 4th grader knows his math flash cards, but I will have to play with that to give you an answer (or perhaps someone else has it already)
And also, I am assuming the backed up data will be accessible in the future, even if the hardware systems change, correct? I just want assurances that as long as the data is backed up to USB now it will be accessible in the future w/o issue, regardless of hardware changes.
Now, that's a tough assurance to give -- it is difficult to predict what may come. It is safe to say that your back-up/archive _will_ be compatible with your current hardware and version of the OS you are using today. When/if those variables change you would/can decide if the modification is valuable enough to warrant your moving to a different means for archival.

Re: Archiving the Storyboard

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:05 am
by Rte80west
Great answers, Chet. Thank you.

Now with all that said, what means would you reccomend for archival? The HD archive on the S4000 or a physical transfer to HD miniDV tape and/or regular miniDV tape? Or both? I have concerns w/ tape deteriorating over time and EVERYTHING I have is backed up only to tape. Not sure if this is a valid concern or if I'm overly paranoid, but I'm just looking into additional assurances of preserving data.

Re: Archiving the Storyboard

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:39 am
by HansJoachimKoenig
Hi Rte80west,
do you also have a name?

Well, I save my finished projects on HDV tape and additional via HD Backup Bogart.
My last backup was from a 20 minute HDV storyboard and took 13,5GB of ext.harddrive space.
So I think 2 hours = 120 minutes would need about 81GB of space.
If someone starts this backup method I would recommend using a 1TB harddrive.

Re: Archiving the Storyboard

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:24 pm
by Volker
Yes, I am using a 1TB drive here. And I always have multiple backups of the project I am working on on the hard drive.
So I could restore the backup from yesterday but I also could restore the backup from one week ago which probably makes no sense. From time to time I "clean up" the backup drive to get rid of those unneeded files.

You roughly can say: an HD project takes 60 MBit/second (just the video) - a "nice" data rate :-)

Re: Archiving the Storyboard

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:25 am
by LouBruno
It is my understanding that HDV to a 60 min tape takes 13G's per hour.


DV and HDV both use a fixed rate.

Re: Archiving the Storyboard

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:39 am
by Rte80west
Thanks for the help all