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I am editing with quadcam and I wet thru all cameras and going back I had a couple scenes that when I took a particular Scene that camera moved suddenly. I went back and I fixed 2 scenes. The third one I tryed to fix and that insert got out of sync. What could have caused that? I was using range and position to move the scenes. Could I have hit a wrong key? I have been using this thing for several months now and this is the first time this has happened. Thanks in advance. Bob...

Bob,

If you did the initial mix in QuadCam you should only use Trim/un-trim to modify the inserted video scenes that sit on top of your base scene (Background). Adjusting the Position will move the inserted scenes so they are no longer in sync with your original mix.

Regards,
Chet

Well I guess I have been doing it wrong all along. I have from the start used the position option. I think I tried both and the trim seemed to lose sync. Ummm!
The other 2 scenes I adjusted seemed to keep sync as have others that I have adjusted. Maybe I lost sync and didn't notice. Ok let me get this straight. Put scene in work box, click on range then choose trim. trim scene one way or other and it will maintain sync.? Can I trim Base scenes? THanks Bob...

Chet Can I fix this scene I screwed up? Bob..

Ok let me get this straight. Put scene in work box, click on range then choose trim. trim scene one way or other and it will maintain sync.? Can I trim Base scenes

Yes, only follow this process if you have mixed the video in QuadCam to begin with - you _would_ use position if you were manually inserting the scenes (rather than use QC).Then you use Trim to adjust the overlap between your insert and the base scene.
Trim = Trims the inserted scene while viewing the inserted scene
TrimE = Trims the inserted scene while viewing the base scene

And no, you cannot trim the base scene (at least not while it is in the Storyboard, especially after using QuadCam, as all your inserts are laying on top of the single base scene in the SB. You could have to trim it prior to pull it into QC.

Chet Can I fix this scene I screwed up? Bob..

Yes, I believe in your abilities Bob! To re-synchronize that inserted scene, you would need in this circumstance _to_ use the Position function to re-align the inserted scene on top of the base scene.

Hope that helps!

Regards,
Chet

There are two points that you can use a work around to Trim of the Base Scene.

The beginning and end segments.

Create a one frame Scene (I prefer to use Color Bar in New for this).

Insert it into the beginning or end segment and use Range, Position to place it at the point you wish to "Trim" away.

Use Remove on the portion prior to this point if used in the beginning segment and after this point if used in the end segment.

You will be given two choices, Whole Scene or Scene Part.

If you choose Whole Scene you lose everything you did so you want to be REEEEAL careful not to choose that one.

Choose Scene Part and the portion before the one frame Color bar on the beginning segment or the portion after the one frame Color Bar on the end segment will be removed.

Then just Remove the one frame Color Bar insert.

If this makes you nervous just make a Scene of the entire Storyboard and use Trim in the normal way.

There are times when it is easier or more effective to do it as described on the Storyboard, but you have to do it very carefully as the mistake results in a pretty significant lesson on why you need to be careful with this.

Well I got it after a long while messing with it. I would have been better off to start over as much time as I spent. Momma said I was hard headed. Hopfully I learned a valuble lesson. Tim I experienced the removal trick you suggested. I was working late one night with little sleep the night before and I was just done cutting a piece with Q/C and I dosed off dragging the mouse and I hit the left botton at the most inopportune time and erased the whole piece. I was sick but I shut her off and went to bed. Thanks guys for your help. Bob...

Bob,

Two big tips come to mind from your last post.

One, if you ever initiate a command that prompts you to make a choice between two things that you don't want to choose between because either a. you don't want either or b. you don't know which you want, you can walk away from that decision without making it by right clicking on your mouse.

Two, if you ever make a big mistake such as hit Delete and take out the Storyboard instead of just an Insert Scene or some other really baaaaad one motion thing.

Right after going "Aachhhh!" and having that sick feeling in the pit of your stomach take your hands off the keyboard and mouse.

Before you do anything more with your machine you should Pull the plug.

Not that MSUS is every going to recommend this action, but have you ever noticed when you have a crash how you lose the last thing you just did?

Well, use that to your advantage.

When you do something that you really wish you hadn't if you pull the plug before doing further actions you simulate a crash and yep, you lose the last thing you did.

In this case, you lose the action that you wish you had not done.

Now, I don't recommend you use this as a casual undo button, but when you make a big mistake, pull the plug.

I have been using this trick successfully for years.

I'll try to remember that Tim. When I do the same repetitive key strokes or what ever, I get kind of lazy and I occasionally hit a key that I didn't want to. Most of the time it isn't a big thing but to wipe out the whole story board is huge. The unplugging thing is great. Thanks Bob....

Thats a good idea Joel. Thanks Bob...