recording stop on s4000pro

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mrbrown
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recording stop on s4000pro

Post by mrbrown »

i have quar cam on my prestige not 4000 pro, so i mix the video on the prestige then onto the 4000 for editing threw firewire, the problem is it stop recording approx. 15 min. and when it stops it automatic not save on 4000 like its does onto the prestige. need help fast need to get project out by friday.
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Re: recording stop on s4000pro

Post by Jeanton »

Hi Mark

Does it always stop recording after 15 mins or only this time?
There might be a corrupt scene at that spot that could be the cause of your problem.
Try to find the spot were it stops and have a look at it.
After you think you have fixed it record only that part to save time to see if it goes over it.
One other thing you can do is to make a scene of the storyboard and clipboard it to an empty project and record it out from there
some times it is just a glitch on the hard drive that does it.

Hope this is helpful.
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Re: recording stop on s4000pro

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i were trying to load video onto the 4000, it just goes into a black screem and quicks. i can't load a 30 min or 1hr. project
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Re: recording stop on s4000pro

Post by TimKennelly »

It sounds like it's hitting a corrupt frame (or thinks it is).

I would try Jeanton's suggestion of creating a Scene of the Storyboard (of each angle) and Clipboard those to another Project first and if that does not work try the NOP process to fix this.

The NOP with audio process has a much higher over all success rate, but requires rendering time, but the Scene creation process is instantaneous and Clipboarding to another Project does not take long and often will work with this so should be tried first.

I'd suggest you change your QC process now and for future use a bit to also minimize problems.

Split the Scenes into fifteen minute portions when the Project is of a long duration and do them sequentially.

That will minimize any crash issues compared to doing them full length and running into issues.

Sequentially they will create on the Storyboard seamlessly just fine without committing to having to run the QC successfully for the full duration of the Project.

I am including the step by step for NOP with Audio if the Scene creation/Clipboard method doesn't work.

NOP with Audio

Find your longest single scene in the Scene bin and highlight it.

This is normally an original raw input scene, but not a section that includes the direct problem footage Scene.
You want to use a segment of source video that did NOT give you any problems.
IE: A segment you know does NOT have corrupted frames in it.

Go to Special, use Scene->Sample, Ok.

Switch to the Audio Mix menu, highlight (left click on) an empty audio channel, Add, Scroll to the newly created longest audio sample, Ok.

Slide the large Volume slider all the way to the left to Mute this track.

If this audio sample is not as large as your entire Storyboard use Add again, Mute that segment as well.

Do this until you have filled this track the entire length of your Storyboard with all these segments Muted.

Switch back to the main Edit Menu, Go to the beginning of the Storyboard.

Got to IP Effects menu, scroll to NOP, Add.
Left click on the duration window, Range, Ok, Make sure the Band button is in Trim, not Position mode, then choose OUT, scroll the bar all the way to the right(this should now be the duration of the entire Storyboard), left click to come out of the duration bar, Ok.

Left click the Scene button, Range, OUT, scroll the bar all the way to the right(this should now be the duration of the entire Storyboard), left click to come out of the duration bar, Ok.

It will now render the entire Storyboard and create a Scene of it.

This will take some time,but consideraby less than the out to tape and back in method and has been found to be more effective.

When the Scene in created switch to an empty Project.

Go into the Edit menu, Special, Clipboard, Scene from project->Clipboard, select the Project that the newly created Scene is in.

This should bring up that Project's Scene bin at the newly created Scene, select Ok, Clipboard->Project, scroll to the newly created Scene (if you have other stuff in Clipboard), Ok, Ok.

Now you should have the newly created Scene in the Project.

If you want Chapters go into Split and split the Scene at the desired Chapter points, selecting Use for all.

Then put all those Chapter Scenes onto the Storyboard in order.

Switch to Arabesk, Film and remove the problem Project.

Then Add Film selecting the Project where you have the newly created and Split Scene/Storyboard and proceed as normal.

This is far harder to describe than do.

PS - I believe Control Image could be successfully substituted for NOP if you had a Storyboard that you wanted to tweak in it's entirety, aka: change the brightness, contrast and/or saturation of the entire project.
This alternative does not take any longer (or less) than using NOP, but just remember it will effect the entire Storyboard and not just a few Scenes if done in this procedure to fix a failing Storyboard.
You could alternatively use this procedure on a specific Scene if you know which Scene is causing your problems
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