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still frame??

Post by Beachy »

I took a single frame from a scene in the scene bin and tried to do a 5 sec still of it.
it was shot in 16.9 but the still shot comes out squashed in with a black boarder down the sides, what am I doing wrong?? I now have an Avio/DVD machine
I download via firewire????? Beachy
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Re: still frame??

Post by CKNewman »

John,

I don't know the answer at this point.

:idea: It would help us if you could update your profile to reflect your newer editor and the software (including the operating system) that you have on it. You may want to include the model of the camcorder you are using.
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Re: still frame??

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I was using the Sony 950 set to 16.9 shooting these shots
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Post by Beachy »

Oh dear! gone are the old days when you posted a problem you had about a dozen answers in 24 hrs. Never mind, this is what they call progress in this modern world that we now live in. I would rather go back to the one board for everything, there was never a problem but Chet I think it was, seemed to think it would do better in this format,
How wrong was he? Most of the old school drop in every couple of months or more, Sad, this WAS the best BB on the web...RIP, Beachy :cry:
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Re: still frame??

Post by LouBruno »

Beachy,

I am on holiday but may have an answer:

.Assuming you are using anamorphic setting on the SONY, are you setting your AVIO project window to 16:9?

.AND......is your monitor a 16:9 type monitor?


The above are the two reasons you can get a distorted picture.


OK.....if the above is proper, then do the following.

Make your still frame from the current 16:9 project window and then enter that scene in your clipboard.

Go to an EMPTY 16:9 project and import the clip-boarded scene experimenting with the different settings. Try Panorama as an example.
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Post by TimKennelly »

John,

The BB is far from RIP, I have noticed it has been picking up some momentum once again lately, but I understand you are frustrated.

That said, you have so many non-standard variables in your set up using an old unit with an outdated OS capturing and inputting with old 4:3 cams shooting in electronically spoofed 16:9 it makes it hard to know where to begin on what is wrong. :roll:

I remember my Avio, but it was long gone before 16:9 really came on the scene and as for your OS version, 3.6c is way, way too far back to remember what it could and couldn't do and what it's glitches were.

I personally think the most likely problem is a playback monitor display issue where you have a monitor setting incorrect, but I don't know how to begin to troubleshoot a foreign format (PAL) from across the see with so many variables.

Actually, I do, but you don't have any of the equipment to do so.

The first thing I would do if you had the equipment is have you export out to tape (on a true 16:9 cam) and see if the Still Scene looks right on the flip out 16:9 monitor.

That would confirm or eliminate if it's a monitor display setting as I suspect.
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If John is using the Avio DVD supplied by us, he has SmartEdit V9.1 with Arabesk V4.1g......or at least that is what was installed when it left.

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Re: still frame??

Post by Beachy »

So how do I get what has always been simple...A still frame that does'nt have a black border down each side and a picture squashed in the middle?? I have tried everything
even doing a slow mo but it still gives me the same sqaushed picture???? John
ps. I do appreciate all the could be's thanks guys :D
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Re: still frame??

Post by CKNewman »

Hi John,

I'm not sure where the problem is originating but I did find one possibility. If you did not set up your original project to 16:9 anamorphic before you loaded the footage, but then tried to clipboard the scenes to another project (the one in which you're trying to create the still) that you did set to 16:9 anamorphic , the editor has to make the image conversion from 4:3 to 16:9. There are three options you can choose from that appear at the bottom of the clipboard window when you left click the Options button. Choosing Borders would give you the black borders down each side.

So the questions is - was your original project set to 16:9 Anamorphic before you loaded the footage? If not, consider loading just a small bit of footage into a new project that's set to 16:9 anamorphic and try to create a still from that.
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Re: still frame??

Post by TimKennelly »

Well then someone should be able to solve this.

I left SE at SE7, but think Craig might be onto the issue, especially with John's description of bars on the sides.
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