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I have gone in to the audio section of a project I am working on, and have killed what I thought was the sound recorded at the event. But it keeps showing up! Which track is the one for ambient sound? I thought it was the very top one, but that hasn't done the job.

Yep, the top track is the natural sound track of the video.

I believe you need to render (Create) if after muting it if you are on an Smart Edit OS.

yeah, makes sense, Tim. I put nothing new in, but I suppose a change needs registering too, huh? Thanks!

Jim , you may know this but I have a Renommee and I sometimes don't want the Natural sound so I too mute it. It is the spot right under the scene. I have several times made a change that I hadn't contemplated and it unmutes the Nat sound and it will unrender a track that you have added. I have taken ti going to my audio screen as the last thing and look for yellow under the scenes. I hope that helps. Bob...

I am always rubber-banding, and just pull the line down. Then I noticed that I could just as easily move the level over to mute, since I am killing the whole thing. Anyway, what's the yellow under the scene about? I need to get on the editor right after I read stuff in here, and see what is going on, as I can never remember what it was I did, or needed to do. Somethin about bein a AARP member . . . or qualifying to be one!

Take heart Jim I was a member of AARP but I got my insurance better somewhere else. Whe you are on your audio mix screen each one of your Scenes have a light blue block under it withe the scene mame or S 5.13 or so if you haven't named it. Any time you change the audio, up or down, a yellow line appears above the block where the scene title is. When you click create the line changes back to blue. Thats rendering that effect. If you make changes on your story board the render can be undone in the mix screen, hence if you have muted the camera audio of a scene that muted audio will be back, or audio you have added on other tracks will become unrendered. I hope I have explained it so you can understand it. I sometimes don't communicate understanding too good. Bob...

Bob, you nailed it! I appreciate that. I know that Renomee has a hierarchy of changes, where transition changes blow titles away, etc. Sound is lowest on the totem pole, so any change in the actual scene, transition, title, makes you change, or re-render the sound. Thanks for your very well-stated explanation.

My pleasure Jim. Isn't it wonderful to have a place where you can bounce a problem off of several hundreds of people. With other systems I have struggled for days and weeks at times with no concrete help. With other editors I have owned after the initial warranty period, usually 90 days or so you are on your own with the exception of an help desk that typically charges by the minute or at best, by case which I usually can't afford, just to find out it was something I had forgotten. I hate that. Bob...

Bob, apparently subsequent storyboard changes have to affect the scene itself in order to undo the change. I changed earlier scene lengths to other scenes, and had to restore the work I had done to them, but the affected scene where I dumped and created the dead ambient sound, was not affected at all. Love this age and technology, you bet!

And you nailed that on the head too Jim. At my age computers were a blurr at times. I trained for a new job, within the company from which I am now retired from, and while I was training the office went to computers. I worked with them as best as I could but kept all my records on paper as everyone in the office did. We slowly became confident in the computers ability to keep up with what we were doing. That was probably 25 years ago and I had been in the video business on a side line basis for about 3 years. My editor at the time was a tape to tape JVC VHS machine with a edit controler in-between. I thought that was great. I ocassionally was in different studios and I drooled at what they could do. The only thing was it cost a couple million to do what they were doing. I can now do most of what they were doing and I have about $4000 give or take invested in what I have here. Yes modern Technology is wonderful. I am glad you got your problems resolved. Later Bob....