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24p don't forget this option please.

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:00 am
by Franklinbencosme
Ok since BOGART 5 is coming,please development from Germany don forget to
fix the 24p option,when I compare 30p to 24p,there is a big different looks to
my eyes in 24p,the film looks is AMAZING so if this is only a NTSC problem,try to
do the best for a COMPLETE better an happy release of BOGART 5.. ;)

Re: 24p don't forget this option please.

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:27 am
by videojim
I sent in a card with 24p lip-sync on it to Boulder for testing. We will see . . .

Re: 24p don't forget this option please.

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:36 am
by videojim
The Nikon may make a different kind of 24p than what you shoot with. The D90 makes a motion jpg, whatever that is. Chet was saying that 24p he had seen got in trouble quick on the sync side, but the 24p he had was NOT from a Nikon D90, I don't think. Like AVI's, there are different flavors of 24p, apparently, based on file type, and camera maker, and other factors I am sure. Is yours losing sync fast, and what are you shooting with?
BTW, my 24p files are holding up good lip sync up to 3 1/2 minutes in the S6000. There were some times when video got locked up in playback, but kept the sync after that point.

Re: 24p don't forget this option please.

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:31 am
by LouBruno
Don't forget 24F as well used by some Canon cameras. Motion Jpeg(s) is a more mature and phased out codec with NO international agreement on a standard. Used years back for PC applications that were sans a fast processor. It is lossless however, but has been replaced by MP-4. It is also important to note that Motion Jpeg's are INTRAFRAME which can cause audio issues.

My Panasonic uses AVCHD-2 and in 24P I lose audio sync 'right off the bat." Our systems have the same issues as other operating systems with all different sub-codecs, containers, wrappers, manipulated AVCHD etc. etc. Yeah....I know.....you are getting a headache. :-)
videojim wrote:The Nikon may make a different kind of 24p than what you shoot with. The D90 makes a motion jpg, whatever that is. Chet was saying that 24p he had seen got in trouble quick on the sync side, but the 24p he had was NOT from a Nikon D90, I don't think. Like AVI's, there are different flavors of 24p, apparently, based on file type, and camera maker, and other factors I am sure. Is yours losing sync fast, and what are you shooting with?
BTW, my 24p files are holding up good lip sync up to 3 1/2 minutes in the S6000. There were some times when video got locked up in playback, but kept the sync after that point.

Re: 24p don't forget this option please.

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:57 pm
by Franklinbencosme
This is a topic that I will like a respond from Jorg Sprave about this issue with 24p in GENERATION 3 (2012) cassie.

All others editing software (Premiere,Vegas, Edius,FCP,Avid,and many more) dont have problems with 24p,why
we(Casablanca editors),can't deal with 24p when this is something MANDATORY in the video industry ?. :o
Nothing agains 60i,but after shoots in 30P and 24P the 60i footage looks OLD FASHION... :shock:

Re: 24p don't forget this option please.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:59 am
by videojim
Come to find out that the D90 will only make a 5 minute scene in HD. It was the first Nikon D SLR to do video, and it does it very well, but it gets hot quick, so it will make a good B-roller, and I'll have to get a camcorder to take longer work. Still, I can shoot 24P that the S6000 will work with. I have seen it do well up to 3 1/2 minutes and have no doubt that 5 minutes will be no problem for it.