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Hi-def monitor for Bogart editors

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:06 pm
by BobFoster
Problem: Editing SD material on S-4000 Pro with OS 5.3 the video looks like VHS playback on a tube TV when connected to a high def monitor using HDMI.
When editing HD material on the same system the video looks fantastic. I rarely edit HD material so most of the time, I use S-video connection to a Sony hi-rez 850 line monitor originally over $2k. The image looks better than the same footage on the Hi-def monitor and can be better monitored for image quality. If I upgrade to a new unit I will be forced to using HDMI monitor since the new units do not have S-video out capability and I'm back to the same VHS composite looking display. What are you using to get good displays of SD materials when editing on a Bogart system or am I the only one still editing SD program material?

Re: Hi-def monitor for Bogart editors

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:17 am
by Alan
Hi,

I suspect that HD TV's that have S inputs have relatively poor quality circuitry. I Have the S4000pro and use a profesional monitor as I have never been quite satisfied using a HDTV. Its a Dell U2410 24 - inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor. I've had a look at some old SD material and its softer and noisier, but still quite a good picture. So Is some video I took with a Hi8 Sony camera. Hope this helps. What I suspect happens with the TV is that they contain picture enhancement circuitry that you may not be able to turn off, so that you never quite se what you are editung.

Cheers Alan.

Re: Hi-def monitor for Bogart editors

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:28 am
by LouBruno
I use a professional JVC monitor after learning my lesson using a HDTV. The colors are rarely true as is the contrast ratio. To add insult to injury, some of the newer HDTV's self-correct to room light. This is real bad for obvious reasons.

Re: Hi-def monitor for Bogart editors

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:15 am
by BobFoster
Is that an HD monitor with HDMI input or a CRT with RGB and/or S-Video inputs Lou? If HD with HDMI, what model number? The HD reference models that I have seen at B&H cost more than the new editors. I'm not providing Broadcast programing. However the setup I have using HDMI monitoring with SD materials is embarrassing to show to customers.

Re: Hi-def monitor for Bogart editors

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:38 am
by BobFoster
A little research has uncovered HDMI to RGB converters that might permit the continued use of the Sony PVM 14M4U reference monitors with the newer S and Karat editors. I am going to purchase one of the converters and give it a try with my S 4000 Pro.

Re: Hi-def monitor for Bogart editors

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:07 pm
by JBrooks
I recently purchased the LG 29EA93 ultra-wide 21:9 1080p professional LED monitor using the HDMI connector. It is amazing!

I simply activate the "16:9 as 21:9" in the project settings and it fills the wide screen perfectly...it looks really cool with the S-series editors....It lists for around $600.00...well worth it. Looks great in HD & SD with HDMI.

Joel Brooks
http://www.mitvideoproductions.com

Re: Hi-def monitor for Bogart editors

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:40 am
by BobFoster
Thanks for the input Joel. Are those SD projects also 16:9 images?
The HDMI converter that I ordered has HDMI input and HDMI pass thru with Composite,S-Video and RCA audio outs. It is a powered "active" converter rather than a passive cable split-out.
Bob F. GVP

Re: Hi-def monitor for Bogart editors

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:44 pm
by JBrooks
Yes Bob, the SD clips are 16:9. They look good as well.

Joel

Re: Hi-def monitor for Bogart editors

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:27 am
by LouBruno
I use the v22L JVC. ProfessionalHD monitor.

Re: Hi-def monitor for Bogart editors

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:13 pm
by garymcnally
Is this the JVC model Lou:
http://salestores.com/jvcdtv20.html
This seems too good to be true for $427