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S4000 Pro

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:45 am
by pringle
Hi all,

I've been playing around with my new S4000 pro machine and have today attempted my first "Blu-Ray" disc burn. It didn't work!

The HDV film was loaded onto the machine, fully rendered and the attempt to make the back-up was made BUT the machine would not recognise the Blu-Ray disc? It kept on asking "please insert a writeable disc", I tried another disc but ended up with the same result!

There's not many dealers selling Blu-Ray discs in my area and I usually have to send away for my discs so it would be away into next week before I can get any different ones sent to me at this late stage of the week!

The discs I'm trying to use are Verbatim BD-R, I went for Verbatim as I'm not had problems with their "normal" DVD's. Is there something I'm not doing before trying to burn?

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Pringle

Re: S4000 Pro

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:05 pm
by CliffHawkins
It is my understanding that the Blu-Ray burner will not burn a Blu-Ray disc through Arabesk at this time. It will burn a data file of your video to your blu-ray disk. But the ability to play it back is vewry limited. A computer with a Blu-Ray drive and Sony Palystation will play the Blu-Ray files.

Others can respond to either verify what I have been told or to clarify or add to.

Re: S4000 Pro

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:09 pm
by pringle
Hi Cliff,

Yes, you are right, as things stand at the moment, you cannot use Arabesk to burn Blu-Ray but it is possible going through the "back-up" menu.....except on my machine that is!

Re: S4000 Pro

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:26 pm
by TimKennelly
I did not opt for the BluRay burner, so am not the best one to answer here, Lou probably has by far the most experience and hopefully he will chirp in, but just to make sure everyone understands, Arabesk is an SD DVD authoring program and never was designed to burn BluRay.

Currently you use the Backup process to create BluRay disks.

Some time in the future I expect MSUS will come out with a BluRay authoring program.

Re: S4000 Pro

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:26 pm
by LouBruno
Correct. There will be software down the road I read on the listserve. Right now I save 20 minutes on a regual DVD or a flash drive (depending on the size) of DATA that plays remarkably on my PS3.
I play the disc as if you would insert a regular disc. What's awesome is using a thumb drive in the PS 3 USB port.
CliffHawkins wrote:It is my understanding that the Blu-Ray burner will not burn a Blu-Ray disc through Arabesk at this time. It will burn a data file of your video to your blu-ray disk. But the ability to play it back is vewry limited. A computer with a Blu-Ray drive and Sony Palystation will play the Blu-Ray files.

Others can respond to either verify what I have been told or to clarify or add to.

Re: S4000 Pro

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:37 am
by MichaelD
pringle wrote:The HDV film was loaded onto the machine, fully rendered and the attempt to make the back-up was made BUT the machine would not recognise the Blu-Ray disc? It kept on asking "please insert a writeable disc", I tried another disc but ended up with the same result!
Hi Pringle,

You say you attempted to make a back-up so I presume that you weren't trying to use Arabesk - is this correct ?
I've used a BD-RW Verbatim with success but I have heard of someone else having the same problem.

Are you any further forward with this and is anyone else getting the same problem?

Re: S4000 Pro

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:39 am
by LouBruno
Did you go to your PROJECT WINDOW? That is where the backup is located.

Re: S4000 Pro

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:08 am
by MichaelD
Hi Pringle,

Looks like a firmware issue - Pioneer are up to v1.7 for the BD 202.

I'm sure an update for the S4000 will appear shortly . . .

Re: S4000 Pro

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:33 am
by pringle
LouBruno wrote:Did you go to your PROJECT WINDOW? That is where the backup is located.
Hi Lou & MichaelD,

Yes I did go to the project window for the back-up.

I know Arabesk won't work with Blu Ray at the moment........anyone know when it will work with Blu Ray?

Thanks MichaelD for the tip on the re-writeable discs, tried it and it burnt the project okay but it still doesn't recognise the write only disc!

How do I find out which firmware is currently installed on my system and how do I go about upgrading it?

Thanks all,

Pringle

Re: S4000 Pro

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:49 am
by TimKennelly
Pringle,

Did you not read my post?

Arabesk is a DVD authoring program.

DVD and BluRay are completely different animals.

While I expect MS to come out with a BluRay authoring software I do not think it will be incorporated into Arabesk (could be wrong I guess, but doubt it).

You go into Finish, Arabesk, Settings to see your current firmware version.

Firmware software is available for download on the MS site which also lists the current versions appropriate for your specific burner version which is also listed in Settings.