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Help on camera upgrade for S6000?

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:09 pm
by stonepatterson
I have this in Camera section too... But fits in the how to and tips as well. I am a 'poor' film-maker with a S6000. Always looking for best image/audio as CHEAPLY as possible. Last year I bought a Sony HDR-PJ790. Loved the size of camera, picture, etc. HOWEVER. The camera is 60p or 60i. To edit on my S6000, I had to shoot everything in 60i (24 Mbps). There were some minor problems, but over all, image looked good. NOW, I look at the new FDR-AX33 4K. I know that my editing system will not handle 4K, or even XAVC S 1920 X 1080p /30 fps, however, this camera does do AVCHD 1920 X 1080p / 30 fps (@ 28 Mbps). Currently, my work goes directly to DVD, BluRay or internet.
Question #1 -- Is there a non expensive way to convert XAVC S 4K to AVCHD 1080p? So I can take the 1080p footage and edit on my current S6000 system? The files are smaller and thus faster to edit (in 1080p than 4K). Is there a direct way to thus, from camera to WHAT? to the S6000?
#2 -- Is it true, that if you shoot in 4K (on the Sony FDR-AX33 @ 100 Mbps) and convert footage down to 1080p the image will be superior in the 1080p than if shot in 1080p? Maybe a higher 50 to 60 Mbps?
#3 -- With file storage, such as UHS-I SDXC (64GB @ $29.95) memory card(s) (used by the Sony FDR-AX33) and hard drive(s) -- prices continue to drop, I like the idea of shooting in 4K (100 Mbps) while keeping the unedited 4K footage on a hard drive, and marketing out the 1080p edit on bluray (or as internet content). Question, is the 100 Mbps @ 4k worth it (to keep on file for possible future use)? Looking at much more expensive cameras (way out of my price range) like the AJA Cion @ 454 Mbps (444), but also considering that 1080p @ 50 Mbps is the standard for 'broadcast quality'.
In 2004, I lost a shot at marketing ($$$$), had great footage -- but, it was shot in 'Pro' DVcam. I do not want to end up repeating the same mistake; based upon the quality of footage in 2015/16. Thanks for ANY feedback and comments... I have received good advice in the past.

Re: Help on camera upgrade for S6000?

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:21 am
by LouBruno
Had thevX70. Own X-100. AX-33 on the way. Everything is 4k soon here in NY.

New Bogart will downconvert 4k. Also import the XAVC files. Yes....downconverts looks good. Can't say anything more.

Bogart for windows will work in 4K also.

Btw: you are using the wrong card and will encounter buffer issues. You need UHS-3.

Yo will not be disappointed. Especially XAVC files.

Keep in mind that the 64gb card will not be recognized on the standalone units. You will have to transfer to a USB drive.

Bogart Windows will recognize the 64 Gb card.

Re: Help on camera upgrade for S6000?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:26 am
by stonepatterson
Lou,

Thanks for the input on the 4K camera.

So what exactly do I need to do to my S6000 to make it XAVC S compliant? And could you let me know what your results are when your AX-33 comes in? The only negatives on the AX-33 I have heard about are, the noisy, weak-image-quality in low light, (not a problem for me -- I always light my shots with plenty of controlled, designed lighting) and the rolling shutter, (I use a tripod and/or slider - rare for me to hand hold, although I do like the free reign lens -- same as on the HDR PJ790).

Really want to get to the 1080p 50 Mbps (XAVC S) and archiving on 4 K at 100 Mbps sounds really good for a $1000.00 camera! Shooting in 1080 p 30p at 24 Mbps not so hot... so if you can, let me know what you think? You have a solid record on these threads, your advice is very good.

Re: Help on camera upgrade for S6000?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:49 am
by LouBruno
There are no issues with XAVC whatsoever. Both L and S work fine unlike my Sony Vegas. Would you believe that vegas does not support there own Codec without using a special software called Catalyst.

My only concern here is the 100mb upgrade for the Ax-109 and the 100mb that comes with the AX...will it be compatible?

Next week I should know. As far as lowlight, this will be a travel outdoor camera. The 1 inch sensor on the X70 and the AX-100 rocks in lowlight.