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Avio ST Picture in Picture effect...

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:17 pm
by PhotosinMotion
I am trying to insert a picture to a 14:15 scene on the storyboard. I want it to be a picture in picture fading in after 2 seconds, running for 10 seconds and then fading out, leaving the remaining 2:15 to go into the next scene. I am trying to figure out how to go about it...It is with the idea of a newscast where a box in the upper right corner appears and then fades out.
You can e-mail me at photosinmotion@juno.com with any help...I am running version 2.5!

Doug.

Re: Avio ST Picture in Picture effect...

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:01 pm
by PaulBusta
Doug, you can't really do it with PIP, only PIP Studio will let you do that. If you cut the video to put the PIP in the place where you want it you then put a crossfade to get the PIP to fade it puts the before and after video out of sync, I'm sure that's the problem your having now. The only way that I know of to do what you want is to use PIP Studio, then it's real easy but you still have to cut your video to make PIP Studio work.

Re: Avio ST Picture in Picture effect...

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:07 pm
by BobNaughton
Doug: Take your 14:15 clip and split it into 2 scenes. The first scene being 12 seconds and the second being 2:15 seconds long. Place the first part of your clip (12) seconds on the storyboard, and behind it, (or to its right) place the scene you want to PIP into the first one. Go into your transitions program choose PIP Studio and add the effect between the two scenes. Then go to the time duration and change the time which is defaulted to one second and change it to 11 seconds.

Once you click on start PIP studio Just choose the shape, and border if you want one. Position and size it to as needed, and then click on EFFECT/FADE IN and choose a fade time of say :15 seconds. then click on FADE OUT and also choose :15 seconds. Once you create it, You should see the first 1:15 seconds of your clip, a :15 fade in of the PIP, it will stay on screen for 10 seconds and then a :15 fade out. Then place the last 2:15 portion of your original clip behind the PIP'd scene.

Doug, I just read paul's post. I assumed you had PIP Studio. I have never done it with the original PIP. If you are crossfading into and out of the clip of 14;15 seconds as long as your crossfade is less than 1 second, I wouldn't think it would affect it.

Re: Avio ST Picture in Picture effect...

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:13 pm
by PaulBusta
Bob, from his description he only has PIP. But Doug it really is that easy so I suggest you spend the money and get PIP Studio, you'll wonder how you ever got along without it.

Re: Avio ST Picture in Picture effect...

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:19 pm
by BobNaughton
I absolultley agree. I dont use it often, but its invaluable when you need it.

Re: Avio ST Picture in Picture effect...

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:31 am
by IanPearson
Doug
The effect you require can be done with the standard PIP effect.

First split your 14:15 scene into three sections, the first 2secs, the second 10secs and the third your 2:15.

Place your 10sec split in the story board, followed by the 10sec PIP, go to “Transition”, - “PIP” – “Add” and change the time to the full 10seconds. Position and size your PIP, add shadow and border as required and the click the “Scene” button – “Effect + scene” and then “OK”.

This will render the scene and place a separate scene of it in the scene bin.

Remove the originals from the story board, place the whole of your 14:15 scene in the story board and then using the “Insert” button, insert the 10sec scene you have just made into the 14:15 scene. Change the function from “Trim” to “Position” and advance the start by 2 seconds – “OK”.

You will now have your first 2secs of your 14:15 scene, followed by the 10sec PIP and finally your remaining 2:15 scene. Now just add a cross fade transition of what ever duration you require at either side of the insert and there you have it.

This does not shorten your total scene length, it will remain at 14:15secs in total.

Ian

Re: Avio ST Picture in Picture effect...

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:05 am
by PaulBusta
Learn something new every day, thanks Ian. :D

Re: Avio ST Picture in Picture effect...

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:10 pm
by PhotosinMotion
Ian,
Thank You and everyone for your replys...I see that it would be easier to get the PIP Studio, and I soon will look into it...maybe a sale will be run eventually for all of us old Avio users? Eventually maybe! Thanks again.

Re: Avio ST Picture in Picture effect...

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:08 pm
by BobFoster
Just a twist on Ian's procedure. After splitting the clip into 3 pieces, place all three scenes on to the story board. Add the 10 second scene at the end of the story board a second time and produce the PIP scene as described. Now take the produced PIP scene and insert it onto the 10 second scene already on the storyboard. Add a cross fade at each end and DONE. (Don't forget to take the work clips off the end of the storyboard) No further work required! I do this all the time on name sub-titles only the procedure does not require side by side work on the storyboard. Just add a title with graphic box onto the person's 7 second split, make a scene, remove the title watchamacallit from the original clip and insert the new titled clip over the original clip in the story board. Adding a cross fade allows the sub-title to fade in and out.

Re: Avio ST Picture in Picture effect...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:12 am
by IanPearson
Doug
Pleased to be of help, as you can see from Bob’s reply, there are very often different ways of achieving a solution. I do however agree, you will not regret the purchase of PIP Studio, a great program.

The one advantage of using Casablanca NLE from an early stage (I think it was about 1997 when I purchased my original Classic) is that the programs in those days were, in comparison to today, very basic. This necessitated the use of creative thinking to generate many of the effects that are standard in today’s programs.

Being a complete amateur, I owe a lot of my early creative thinking and methodology to this forum, and in particular to original members such as Jim M, Tim K, a guy called Sir Ed and many others who have been only too willing to give their time and experience free of charge.

Sorry I seem to be rambling on a bit, but it just seems appropriate to say it now.

Whilst in ramble mode, for all those sitting on the fence about going to Jim’s March get together, then do it, I assure you, you will not regret this learning experience.

Ian