Solitaite Insert Editing

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Re: Solitaite Insert Editing

Post by bvolcjak »

Paul,

OK, I want to create a scene of the entire 3 min. program. I know you indicated that I can do this from "an effects screen such as title or transitions. Select "scene" and range it from the start to finish" etc. I'm still a little confused as to how to begin the process.

So, do I go to my Story Brd. position all the clips so that the first clip is all the way to the left, then go to ? I would think that I'd then go to RANGE. I don't understand your reference to "effects screen such as title or transitions." Sorry.
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Re: Solitaite Insert Editing

Post by JPaul »

OK Bill, sorry if I wasn't clear. I'm at the beach and don't have my Kron in front of me but here goes. If you want a scene of the entire storyboard, just select the very first scene in the storyboard, then open title screen for example, you will have your storyboard at the top showing the 1st several scenes. You will then click on the "Scene" button and a new screen pops up. There are some choices but I usually go for Range, then using in/out select the entire storyboard. You will have a range length equal to the length of your storyboard. When you're done, click OK, twice I believe, and the scene is instantly placed in the scene bin. You can put this scene in the storyboard and begin.

The new scene "cements" all audio, video, special effects so that you have the ability to place the new scene in the storyboard and begin inserting to your hear's content. I hope this helps. :)
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Re: Solitaite Insert Editing

Post by jimmeeker »

Hello Bill,

Yes, it can be daunting to try something new like this, but making a "Scene" of your work is one of the greatest advantages that you can have in video editing. As we have mentioned before, it puts the two streams of video into one new single stream, so that you can now add to it, or put new inserts in it or change or add to the audio tracks as well.

Let me make a couple of suggestions first then we'll walk through the process again.

Add about 10 seconds of dead video before and after your project to lengthen it out. Use either a black scene or the colorbars or even the "countdown numbers" This will act as a buffer to help you in case something goes wrong.

Remember that after you have made a "Scene" for the first time it will seem so easy that you won't have to worry about any of the stuff to protect from messing up.

Being unsure of how this works......to protect your work so that you don't lose what you have already done.....make a "COPY" of all the clips in your storyboard in the order that they are now in. I would also suggest that you then "CLIPBOARD" these to another project.

You now have your beginning work in two separate locations so if you screw it up you've still got the original copy in the other project to fall back on. I hope you are familiar with the clipboard and it's use!

Now work with the COPY. Place the first clip in the work window. Click on the FX button in the lower right hand corner of your screen. This is the easiest one to use as it automatically sets you at the beginning of the clip that you have in your storyboard, so that you don't have to worry about setting "IN" position because you are there already. Now go to "Range" and just roll your track ball to the right until you get to the end of the storyboard. Now just hit OK and it'll make a scene of your storyboard and it will show up in your scene bin as a single scene and you can then re-name it anything you wish....to make it clear in your mind which one this is. In some operating systems it will leave it in the scene bin and in the newest versions it allows you to check a box that will automatically put the new scene in the storyboard and replace the clips that were there already. Either way, get it into the storyboard and now you can make your changes easily in a few minutes.

Again the reason for using the FX button to get into your scene making position is that it sets the beginning where your are already and you just have to make one adjustment.......that of rolling to the right to range it to the end. If you use the other Scene capable starts, like the Titler and others, you have set both the in and the out positions and it takes more fiddling to get it going.

Good Luck Bill and let us know how it works out for you. Please begin to make a scene of your work as a way of building your clips and it will open up a huge new world of editing potential that has always been there.

We make scenes of 90 to 110 minute wedding videos all the time so don't worry about creating a scene of a three or four minute project. You may want to make four or five versions of it so it's easy to just copy the new scene a couple extra times to give you additional scenes to work with as you make changes and want to be able to look back at the before and after versions. Just name each one differently so you can keep track of which is which.
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Re: Solitaite Insert Editing

Post by bvolcjak »

Paul / Jim,

Great information! Uh,,, even though I'm not familiar with the "clip boards" process that Jim mentioned, the rest sounds logical. I'll try to plod thru all of this. Here I go again.... By the way, as a simple test, I was able to alter one clip in the Story Board via "replacing" so that was revealing. Hopefully this afternoon, I'll try to make a scene of the entire presentation. I appreciate your help and patience. Y'all have a good day / weekend.
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Re: Solitaite Insert Editing

Post by KimSWilliamson »

fyi - I am using this process for 4 hour long projects, making one scene of entire project, and I do what Jim recommends, using the FX mode.

then I move the entire scene (storyboard) into a fresh project, chop it up into the chapters I want using the split mode, and label each chapter in my scene bin, then put it into the storyboard ready for Arabesk. (learned this from you guys, thanks a million by the way).

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Re: Solitaite Insert Editing

Post by IanPearson »

Bill
Just to add a little (and hopefully clarify or sum up) the good advice of the others.

When we refer to making a scene of the story board, or just part of it, it’s an extremely useful process which allows us to generate a new scene in the scene bin, which will contain all the story board scenes, or selected part of, including added audio, transitions titles, etc.

This scene will be placed in the scene bin and will now be just like any other scene you added, but all the effects, etc will be an integral part of that scene.

The reason why it is so useful, is that since the transitions, audio, etc are now cemented or part of this new scene, further editing can be done and added to this new scene, without loosing or altering the essential parts of your story board so far.

This process is called layering and can be used to add effects upon effects.

In your case by making a scene of the story board, you can add this new scene to the story board, remove all the existing story board and then add further inserts as required.

I would however, add one step, (since this is your first attempt at this process) instead of adding this scene to the story board and then removing the original material, I would open a new project, use the clip board to import your new scene and any other scenes you need to this new project and then do the insert editing. This allows you to edit as required, but keeps your original work as is, just in case you make a mess of the new work. We have all been there.

Finally just to clarify how to make a scene.

1. With the first scene of your story board in the centre of the edit screen, click on “fx Image processing”.
2. Click the “Scene” button, on the left, just below the story board.
3. In the drop down box, select “Range”, then “OK”.
4. Using the “In” and “Out” buttons select the part of the story board you want to make into a scene. If it’s the whole story board leave “In” at 000.00.00 and scroll to the very end using the “Out” button. Click “OK”
5. If there are any un-rendered, transitions, titles, etc, the system will render these first.
6. When complete, your new scene will be in the scene bin, immediately after the scene you previously had highlighted. Tip, before starting step No1, highlight the last scene in the scene bin and your new scene will be at the end of the scene bin.

Sorry for the long and what may sound complicated explanation, but this relatively simple process is one of those which is far, far easier to demonstrate than to explain.

One further point, in step No4, rather than copying the whole story board, I would just make a scene of the talking head section, with current inserts and replace the old scenes with this new one. However, making a scene of the whole story board is safer, if you have never done this before.
Ian

Sorry for the duplicated advice, more was added whilst I was replying.
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