Bogart 2.2beta rectangle effect

[PhilHandler]

I have found that I can not get the rectangle effect to fill the sides of an image. I am using an S4K Pro. I am in SD. The location and visual show the dashed line at the sides, but after the effect is added, there is a substantial gap on either side, so this effect can not be used to mask pictures at the sides.

Has anyone else found this problem? Is there a work around?

Phil Handler

[methuenbill]

How do you get the 2.2 beta software?

[PhilHandler]

I contacted support and asked. I read about it in a previous post on another subject.

Phil

[BobFoster]

I've always had the fill problem with "Rectangle" from Kron to Renomee Plus. What works much better for me than rectangle is "BB copy Rectangle" in the transitions section (Same section as Cross fade etc.). Place your choice of background on the storyboard. (still or moving) Place you photo after the BG on the storyboard. Open ""BB Copy Rectangle and add it between the two scenes. Note: Both scenes need to be the same length. Check that the transition is set to the same length as the scenes. Click on source area, position and size the dotted line to include the photo without unwanted areas inside the dotted line. Click "OK". Click "Destination area" and center the photo to your taste. Click "OK".
Click "Scene" and "OK" You now have the photo with BG on all sides or however many sides were showing when the photo was cropped and positioned in your scene bin. Much faster and easier than using rectangle. This can be used with moving images as well as stills. A nice touch is to use "Zoom" on the finished scene to add some movement to still images or even moving images and BGs. I don't know if BB Copy Rectangle is available for Bogart 2.2 yet. AAAAARGGGG.

[PhilHandler]

Is this part of Bluebox World? It does not appear to be part of Bluebox that comes standard with the S4K Pro. It does look like a great solution though.

Phil

[BobFoster]

Sorry Yes, it is one of the packages not yet working with Bogart SE. I tried Blue Box with Bogart SE 2.2 and the results are very limited. Given the right combo of backgrounds the results can be similar but not as featured packed as BB World.

[jimmeeker]

Phil,

When you use "Rectangle" the dotted lines need to be opened wide open so that they extend outside the screen's view and into the overscan area otherwise they don't fill the screen on some monitors.

They may look perfect on one tv or monitor and yet won't fill all the way to the edge on another monitor. So be sure to use the "SIze" and push it all the way off the screen to be sure you have it all covered.

Also in the picture size choice on the "Projects" page in Bogart 2.2 click on "Image" and set it to Large. This setting controls how much area of the base scene is effected or covered by any effect that you may add to it. If you select small or normal, your added effect will cover only part of the base image and will look fine on monitors that have wide bezels that cover up part of the image on all sides and don't allow any of the overscan area to show. So with the setting on small you think you are setting your rectangle all the way to the edge but you really aren't. If you set the image to large or full you will cover almost all the screen area even into the overscan areas and the rectangle effect will then go all the way to the outer edge on more monitors and solve your problem.

Also in many of Macrosystem's dotted boxes that allow you to position things on the screen......the dotted lines are not very accurate. You may have to test yours to see where it acutally puts the effect after being rendered and then remember that it produces a finished effect that is a quarter inch farther to the left and an a quarter inch lower...than what the dotted line makes it look like when you are setting it up. They aren't close enough to depend on with out first testing what your software actually produces on the screen after you render it. You must test and compare to be sure.

I think that you will find that "Rectangle" actually works when these other things are checked out.

[PhilHandler]

Thanks Jim,
You are correct. I had my settings set for "normal". I tried the "full" setting and it worked, but not "large".

Can I change this setting on a project and not lose or damage the edit I am doing? I don't care to try unless sure. I am at the end of a very large project.

Phil

[jimmeeker]

Phil,

I'm not certain enough to tell you to go ahead and try it. I have always understood that changes should be made before starting a project and not in the middle of one.

So my best advice is to not change anything now....but wait until you have completed the project then try it with the new settings.

I'm tempted to tell you to do the change in a separate project, clipboard the needed scenes into that project which has the settings changed and finish that part of the edit and then clipboard it back into the original project................................BUT I DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THAT WORKING CORRECTLY!!!!!

[TimKennelly]

You can make the change mid-Project, but it only affects newly Created or Rendered items.

You would think Full would be even better than Large, but I am not positive that is the case.

As Jörg recommends Large for most issues I would use that until told otherwise for DV Projects.