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life expectancy?

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If I was to shoot a program in HDV and store it on the hard drive of the Renomee, how long would it maintain its integrity?
If I wanted to keep it a few years and cut it later, would I be better off to burn an AVI of it, so it could be re-introduced for editing later? BTW, I am wondering which program is used to bring AVI's back in? I thought it was Ksebara, but it wouldn't act as if there was anything on the disc. I am thinking of loading in both in HDV and SD, and cutting the SD now, while saving the HD footage for later on.
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It should last as long as the hard drive.

Aka: could be gone tomorrow or last a decade, figure somewhere in between, closer to tomorrow.

Disk Transfer is the storage medium for AVI level compressed footage, Kseabara works with the much higher compressed MPEG-2 format.

Disk Transfer is currently DV only and does not work with HDV footage.

DV Tape is probably your best long term storage option currently.
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I've tried archiving using the HDV backup option with my S4KP. With my AVIO, I used the DV backup and DV options, which gave you partial project backup. But I've had some issues with sound sync.

My main issue as pointed out in another post is file size limit. Right now, I'm using a program on my Mac to stitch the 1 gig files together. After that, I'm going to try the MTS option and see how that works for transfer to a harddrive and then to my Mac and then further compression to Internet.

Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Casablanca Renomee is the hardware. So I am wondering what are my options? Who has done HDV work on a Ren, and how did that work? Have been reading of some long render times in there, so was cautious about cutting on it. I am looking at shooting with a JVC GYHM 700, and wonder if any has any experience with that camera. Thanks.
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I don't know about that actual model, but JVC 720p cams do not play with MS equipment well.

Last I knew you could do cuts only with DV footage, no effects.

I don't think JVC HDV works at all.
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This particular camera will give you any kind you want, in a signal, but I will check on whether it is 1080i or 720p. Is it the Ren that won't do anything but cuts with an HDV signal?. Chet, what do you know about this? I'll do this in SD, if I have to, so I get the full complement of tricks. But I didn't see anything in the tutorial DVD's about that sort of limitation on the Renomee. The DVD did say the Renomee is the ONLY Casablanca with the juice to do HD.
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Re: life expectancy?

Post by BobNaughton »

Jim

Its not your Renommee that is having the issue with Hdv. Our units at least the casablanca 2 series such as Avio Prestige, Solitaire, Renommee do not work well with the 720P format. It doesnt matter which camera you use either. If its 720P it wont play well as Tim said. Just make sure if you are inputting HDV, it should be 1080I. Our units are designed to work with that. Of the Casablanca 2 series, the Renommee or Renommee + and the Solitaire + have the fastest processor to render HDV. However the new Bogart line Casablanca 3 series are specifically designed with HDV in mind. I think they work with both 720P and 1080I, but its just a guess on my part.
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No, the third generation machines have significant issues with 720P as well and I don't hold out a lot of optimism on future compatibility with 720p either.
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Still, I will have to wait and ask about the 720p/1080i thing. I personally would rather do this in SD. But I wonder how hard will it be to convert, save or whatever I need to do to make at least HD compatible? Shoot it again? If I do, I will then find a way to save the raw HD footage and cut it later on, another machine, if need be. Don't know how big a can of worms that is, or will be. Just want to get something out there. Thanks for all your input.
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